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Mark
The following quote came from Ron Fraser in a 2012 post to the Tiger 260 Engine Block thread.
All 260 blocks are painted black until the last batch in the B19KC engine group assembled in Oct 1965, they are painted blue.
I assume the numbers you mentioned in your post are 382XXXXXXX cars. If so, I guess a black block on 3820000688 might be possible, but is definitely not correct for 3820002XXX.
Jim
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Jim –
Thanks for the info 🙂 We’ll see if anyone else "knows different"?quote CLEVITE:What is the VIN of your car? I can look in my Book of Norman for it’s exact birthday.B382000688
Thanks, that would be great if you can check the date…I’d like to have a "birthday toast" for it since we started that with the T-bird’s 50th earlier this year
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quote VaCat33:The following quote came from Ron Fraser in a 2012 post to the Tiger 260 Engine Block thread.
All 260 blocks are painted black until the last batch in the B19KC engine group assembled in Oct 1965, they are painted blue.
I assume the numbers you mentioned in your post are 382XXXXXXX cars. If so, I guess a black block on 3820000688 might be possible…
JimWhere were the engines asembled? USA?
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Last time I looked SAAC had an incorrect set of facts about Tigers.
Ford controlled the engine configuration and the color. TBON makes a very general statement about what color the engine is painted by Vin#. This is not a precise answer.
All 260 engines were painted black until the B19KC engine group. Ford change engine color to Blue for the 1966 Model year, Aug 1965. The last build for the B19KC engine group was in the Fall of 1965 – these 260 engines were painted Blue and had generators. Ford put Tags and date codes on these engines so it is still possible to determine what color the engine should be painted assuming these indicators are still present. I’ll glady help anyone with these questions.
I would also like to see more partisipation with my Engine Study.Original Tiger Engine Study
Ron Fraser
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Current information indicates the Fall 1965 build of the B19KC engine was mid October 1965.
Shipping from the Cleveland Foundry could be up to 2 weeks or more; then moved from the entry dock in England to Jensen would take more time; then there is unloading, unpacking, some assembly maybe required and then placed in the Q to go to install assembly, all time consuming and variable. So NO I do not know the time frame for engines from USA to install.
My best guess right now on very limited information is 4 months; the time frame for my Tiger ‘s engine was 6 months so the time frame is also variable.
More information is needed for all Engine Groups to answer this type of questions.
Original Tiger Engine Study
Ron Fraser
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quote rfraser:Shipping from the Cleveland Foundry could be up to 2 weeks or more; then moved from the entry dock in England to Jensen would take more time; then there is unloading, unpacking, some assembly maybe required and then placed in the Q to go to install assembly, all time consuming and variable.
My best guess right now on very limited information is 4 months; the time frame for my Tiger ‘s engine was 6 months so the time frame is also variable.More information is needed for all Engine Groups to answer this type of questions.
Ron FraserI was thinking that the "delay" would be significant between Cleveland and final assy… that is a lot distance (and thus time via ship) plus a lot of logistical steps along the way.
Hopefully you’ll be able to gather more data and things will be more clear as time goes on.
Thanks again.
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FWIW I was recently slapped around pretty good on the saac forum for indicating that there is such a thing as a blue 260 engine, and that there is such a thing as a late 1965-produced 260 😕
… thus I am really not sure why a blue-engined/alternator Mk1a was awarded SAAC Gold in the concours 🙄Ron, maybe the SAAC data is ‘way out-of-date as you indicated?
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