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rubbish brakes - need a plan

Postby odl21 » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:38 pm

guys,
i'd like your help to devise a plan for my tiger's brakes. currently is has a fully stock system which doesn't work too well.

i'm thinking the following but its just an idea:
1) new master cylinder (7 bore) and get rid of the booster which seems problematic.
2) dale's wilwood vented kit for the front (is there a cheaper alternative!?)
3) either new pads for the back or some kind of disc conversion. again, is there a cheaper way to do it than dale's kit?

thanks in advance.

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Postby alpine_64 » Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:46 pm

There will be cheaper ways to do it than dales. And if you rear the Rootes Review someone has done an article on a rear conversion. These will all require you doing the engineering. I think Dales kit is very reasonable for the quality, its a known quantitiy and has support.. in the long run is probably easier and if you take into account time.. cheaper.
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Postby odl21 » Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:55 pm

ok, i'm sold on dale's front kit. i read the back kit gave something like 90/10 rear/front distribution though. wouldn't it be better just to stick with the drums?

how about master cylinder and booster or the lack of? whats the general consensus there?

cheers.

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Booster

Postby mikeflbmer » Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:19 pm

Change your master to smaller bore (3/4 vrs 7/8) Early Alpines had them and CAT club sells them....Leave the booster in for looks, but you wont need it with smaller bore master and ugraded discs......The boosters fail even after a rebuild....unless you send them to a pro shop which is pricey....My opinion...Mike

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Postby alpine_64 » Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:51 pm

While what Mike says will work, and i have an SII alpine with no servo, and my tiger (nice to say that) is running dales front and rear kit with no booster, if i was going to swap the MC i would go a dual setup. I have heard rumors of Datsun 280Z MC's and a few others, if you are going to order parts from Dale i am sure he knows what to use.

I would go dual for safety, its one of the first things i will change on my car once i get it registered.
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Postby Hugh Guynes » Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:08 pm

Here is Doug Jennnings' (Tiger Auto) solution to the master cylinder.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w172 ... linder.jpg

The next picture shows the balance bar setup.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w172 ... ncebar.jpg
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Postby CLEVITE » Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:24 pm

How are the brakes set up on Doug's design? One front and one rear for each cylinder, or all front and all rear?

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Postby Hugh Guynes » Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:44 pm

The inside master works the front brakes and the outside the rears. The rear brakes are disks with Fiat calipers and Datsun B210 rotors. I had to redrill the rotors and machine them to clear the Tiger hub. I also had to make a caliper adapter bracket. Total cost was about $ 250.
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